How to use 程 = ほど= hodo


= Kare no koto wasureyou to sureba suruhodo, omoidashichau.

= The more I try to forget about him, the more I remember him….



Hi everyone!

This lesson is for my Facebook student, Yui, and also for many people who “tweeted” me in the past to ask how to use

:rrrr: 程 = ほど= hodo.

It is going to be a long lesson. But hope you all learn more than just a word, ほど(=hodo). Ready? 

→ 程 = ほど ( = hodo)  = degree, extent, approximately ~

(I will write this word  in hiragana except in the last part of this lesson, but you can use either hiragana or kanji.)

⭐️ When you compare A and B.

:rrrr: A is not as ~ as B

AはBほど〜ない ( = A wa B hodo ~ nai.)

 It is always used in a negative sentence.

🔸Basic pattern 1)

A is not as (adjective) as B

:rrrr: A はBほど~ない

= A wa B hodo ~  nai.

Ex. A はBほど背が高くない。

= A wa B hodo se ga takaku nai.

= A is not as tall as B

Ex. AはBほどかわいくない。

= A wa B hodo kawaiku nai.

= A is not as cute as B

Ex. AはBほど静かではない。

= A wa B hodo shizuka de wa nai

= A is not as quiet as B.

Ex. 名古屋は東京ほどごみごみしていない。

= Nagoya wa Toukyou hodo gomigomi shite inai.

= Nagoya is not as crowded as in Tokyo.

Ex. うちの学校はあそこの学校ほど大きく(は*)ない

= Uchi no gakkou wa asokono gakkou hodo ookiku (wa) nai.

= Our school is not as big as that school.

Ex. 今日は昨日ほど寒く(は*)ない。

= Kyou wa kinou hodo samuku (wa) nai.

= It’s not as cold as yesterday today.


= Ano sensei wa Maggie Sensei hodo kibishiku nai.

= That teacher is not as strict as Maggie Sensei.

🔸Basic pattern 2)

:rrrr: A doesn’t do something as much  as B/ A doesn’t do something as (adverb) as B

A はB ほど (verb) ない

= A wa B hodo ~  nai.

Ex. A はB ほど勉強しない。

= A wa B hodo benkyou shinai.

= A doesn’t study as much as B.

Ex. AはBほど仕事をしない。

= A wa B hodo shigoto wo shinai.

= A doesn’t work as much as B

Ex. AはBほど飲まない。

= A wa  B hodo nomanai.

= A doesn’t drink as much as B.

Ex. 今日は日曜日ほど人がいない。

= Kyou wa nichiyoubi hodo hito ga inai.

= There aren’t as many people as on Sundays.

Ex. もう昔ほど、無理は (or を)しなくなった。

= Mou mukashi hodo muri wa( or wo)  shinaku natta.

= I don’t work too much as before. / I don’t do crazy things like I used to.

Ex. AはBほど料理がうまくない。

= A wa B hodo ryouri ga umaku nai.

= A doesn’t cook as well as B does.

Ex. AはBほどカラオケが下手ではない。

= A wa B hodo karaoke ga heta dewa nai.

= A doesn’t sing along Karaoke as bad as B does.

Ex. うちの子供は隣の子供ほど行儀がよくない。

= Uchi no kodomo wa tonari no kodomo hodo gyougi ga yokunai.

= Our child doesn’t behave as well as the children next door.

⭐️  Not like ~ / Not as ~

We sometimes omit the subject and object when we respond to someone’s quote.

:rrrr: ほどではありません。(polite)ほどではない

= ~ hodo dewa arimasen /~  hodo de wa nai

= (Subject) is not  (adjective) as/like ~ →Not as someone/something  is/does

Ex. Maggie: 「かわいいね!」

= Kawaii ne!

= You are cute!

Student A : 「マギー先生ほどではありません。」(being humble and polite)

= Maggie sensei hodo dewa arimasen.

= (I am) Not as cute as you, Maggie Sensei.

Maggie: 「最近、太ったね。」

= Saikin futottane.

= You’ve been gaining weight.

Student B : 「マギー先生ほどではないけどね。」(being rude. !gejigeji! )

= Maggie Sensei hodo dewa naikedone.

= But I’m not as fat as you are, Maggie Sensei.

⭐️  Not as ~ as someone has imagined / thought /  expected, etc.

*思ったほど  ( = omotta hodo) as ~ as someone thought

*想像していたほど  ( = souzou shiteita hodo) =as ~ as someone imagined

*期待していたほど  ( = kitai shite ita hodo) = as~ as  someone expected

+ ~ で(は)なかった  ( = ~ dewa nakatta)/~ではありませんでした。( = dewa arimasen deshita) * more polite

Ex. 試験は、思ったほど難しくなかった。

= Shiken wa omotta hodo muzukashiku nakatta.

= The exam was not as difficult as I had imagined.

Ex. あの映画は期待していたほど面白くなかった。

= Ano eiga wa kitai shiteita hodo omoshiroku nakatta.

= The movie was not as good as I had expected.

Ex. 僕は静香ちゃんが思っているほどモテないから心配しないで。

= Boku wa  Shizuka chan ga omotte iru hodo motenai kara shinpai shinai de.

= I am not as popular among girls as you think so don’t worry, Shizuka.

Ex. その店は評判ほど悪い店ではありませんでした。

= Sono mise wa hyouban hodo warui mise dewa arimasen deshita.

= The restaurant was not as bad as its reviews.


= Kare wa minna ga kangaete iru hodo warui yatsu ja nai.

= He is not as bad a guy as everybody thinks.

Note: じゃない  ( = janai) is a casual form of ではない  ( = dewa nai)

!star!  Not worth doing something.

Ex. 彼の怪我は心配するほどじゃない。

= Kare no kega wa shinpai suru hodo ja nai.

= It’s not worthwhile worrying about his injury. 

Ex. そんなに怒るほどのことじゃない。

= Sonnani okoru hodo no koto janai .

= It is not worth getting so mad. 

!star! to do something like ~ / to be as (like)~ / to be almost ~

It is very similar to   = ぐらい/くらい= gurai/kurai

We sometimes describe things in an extreme way.


= Kotoba ni dekinai hodo utsukushii keshikida.

= The landscape is too beautiful for words.

(The literal meaning of 言葉にできない = kotobani dekinai) can’t express with words)


= Kono manga wa akiru hodo yonda.

= I read this comic book until I got tired of it.

(The literal meaning of 飽きるほど  ( = akiru hodo) until I get really tired of → to do something repeatedly, again and again)


= Kare no koto ga shinuhodo suki desu.

= I love him so much I would die for him. / I love him to death.

Ex. 昨日は、声がかれるほど歌った。

= Kinou wa koe ga kareru hodo utatta.

= We sang until we went hoarse.


= Kono senzai wa omoshiroi hodo yogore ga toreru.

= This detergent gets rid of the stains so easily.

(Note: 面白いほど =  omoshiroi hodo) = the direct translation is to be able to do something so easily that you get so excited or feel thrilled)


= Kono CD wo kiku to fushigina hodo yoku nemureru.

= I can sleep very well when I play this CD.

Ex. 彼女はプロと間違えられるほどの料理の腕がある。

= Kanojo wa puro to machigaerareru hodo no ryouri no ude ga aru.

= She is such a good chef that people mistake her for a professional.

Ex. 目は口ほどに物を言い (an old saying)

= Me wa kuchi hodo ni mono wo ii.

= Eyes are as eloquent as the tongue.

= One can say more with a look than with ten thousand words

In Samurai drama, there is a cliché line when someone asks a Samurai who just helps them his name, he says

Ex. 「名乗るほどの者ではござらん」

= Nanoru hodo no mono de wa gozaran.

= I don’t deserve to identify myself (give you my name.) (I am not that great to identify myself.)

Note : ござらん ( = gozaran) is an old fashioned way to say ありません ( = arimasen)
It is usually follow the quote :


= Sessha touzen no koto wo shitadake de gozaru.

=I just did what I should have done.

Note : ござる ( = gozaru) is another typical Samurai expression for です ( = desu)

Ex. 彼女の前で昔のニックネームで呼ばれるほど恥ずかしいことはない

= Kanojo no mae de mukashi no nikkuneimu de yobareru hodo hazukashii koto wa nai.

= There is nothing more embarrassing than someone referring to me by the old nickname in front of my girlfriend.

Ex. 目に見えないほど小さいダイヤの指輪を買った。

= Meni mienaihodo chiisai daiya no yubiwa wo katta.

= I bought a tiny diamond ring. (It is so small that it’s almost invisible.)

Ex. 父は、両手に抱えきれないほどのお土産を持って帰ってきた

= Chichi wa ryoute ni kakaekirenai hodo no omiyage wo motte kaette kita.

= My father came back home with lots of gifts.

(The literal meaning of  抱えきれない( = kakae kirenai )is can’t hold something in one’s arms.)

Ex. あの子はまだ11才なのに驚くほどの才能を持っている。

= Anoko wa mada juuissai nanoni odoroku hodo no sainou wo motte iru.

= Although the child is only 11 years old, he/she has an amazing talent.

Ex. あの人ははいて捨てるほどお金を持っているらしい。

= Ano hito wa haite suteru hodo no okane wo motte iru rashii.

= I heard he/she is loaded.

(The literal meaning of はいて捨てる( = haite suteru) is  to sweep money and throw them away.)


= Kokono raamen wa taten to wa kurabemono ni naranai hodo oishii.

= The ramen here is much more delicious than the ramen at other places.

Ex. サイン会をしたら中に入りきれないほどファンが集まった。

= Sainkai wo shitara naka ni hairikirenai hodo fan ga atsumatta.

= When we had an autograph-signing session,  so many fans gathered that some of them couldn’t get inside.

⭐️  ~ ほど+adjective +noun = ~  of someone’s caliber. someone as good/great as ~

Ex. 鈴木さんほどの人がどうしてあんな失敗をしたのだろう。

= Suzuki san hodo no hito ga doushite anna shippai wo shitanodarou.

= I wonder why a person like Mr.Suzuki would make such a mistake.

Ex.  マギーほどのいい女はそうそういない。

= Maggie hodo no ii onna wa sousou inai.

= There aren’t many nice women like Maggie.

Ex. ほどの人がどうしてこんな大学に…

= Kare hodo no hito ga doushite konna daigaku ni…

= I wonder why a (smart/great) person like him would come to this university.

⭐️ to express approximate numbers = about, approximately

:rrrr: amount/number +ほど ( = hodo)

(You can replace this with くらい = kurai/ぐらい = gurai))


= Kokokara kurumade sanjuppun hodo no tokoro ni sunde imasu.

= I live in a place about a 30-minute drive away from here.


= Ato hyakumeitoru hodo massugu susunde kudasai.

= Go straight about 100 meters more.

Ex. 5分ほど中火で煮て下さい。

= Gofun hodo chuubi de nite kudasai.

= Please cook this for about five more minutes on medium heat.


= Ato gomei hodo okurete kimasu.

= About five more people are coming later.


OK, if you are a beginner, you can stop here. !ochame!

The next section is for the intermediate level:



⭐️ When you emphasize something :

:rrrr: Nothing/Nobody is as ~ as A / Nobody does (can do)  something as A :

A ほど + verb or  adjective + noun +ない ( = nai) / いない ( = inai)/いません ( = imasen) or ありません ( = arimasen) * more polite


Ex. マギー先生ほど、生徒のことを大切に思っている先生はいません。

= Maggie Sensei hodo seito no koto wo taisetsu ni omotte iru sensei wa imasen.

= There is no teacher who cares about students as much as Maggie Sensei.

Ex. ほど早く走れる人はいません。

=Kare hodo hayaku hashireru hito wa imasen.

= There is nobody who can run as fast as he can.

Ex. スイスほど美しい国はありません。

= Suisu hodo utsukushii kuni wa arimasen.

= There is no country as beautiful as Switzerland.


= Onigiri hodo sinpuru na tabemono wa nai.

= There is no food as simple as rice balls.

Ex. 今日ほど辛い日はなかった。

= Kyou hodo tsurai hi wa nakatta.

=(There are no days as bad as today)  Today was the hardest day.

Ex. ほどひどい人はいません。

= Kare hodo hidoi hito wa imasen.

= (There is nobody as bad as he is.) He is the worst person.

Ex. 愛する人を失うことほど辛いことはない。

=Aisuru hito wo ushinau  koto hodo tsurai koto wa nai.

= Nothing is as hard as losing someone you love.

⭐️to emphasize :  “this much” “that much”,etc.

:rrrr: これほど ( = korehodo) this muchそれほど ( = sorehodo) that muchあれほど ( = arehodo) that much, to that extent

Which one to use depends on the distance between you and what/whom you refer to.

Ex. あなたがこれほど、馬鹿な人だとは思わなかった。

= Anata ga korehodo bakana hito dato wa omowanakatta.

= I didn’t think you were this stupid.

Ex. それほどお金に困っていたらどうして一言、相談してくれなかったの?

= Sorehodo okane ni komatte itara doushite hitokoto soudan shite kurenakattano?

= If you were that desperate for money, why didn’t you ask me for a piece of advice?


A : 「日本語がお上手ですね。」

= Nihongo wa ojouzu desune.

= Your Japanese is great.

B : 「それほどでもないです。」(being humble)

= Sorehodo demo nai desu.

= Not that great.

Ex. 外はそれほど寒くない

= Soto wa sorehodo samukunai.

= It is not that cold outside.

Ex. あれほどかわいいのにカレがいないんだって。

= Arehodo kawaii noni kare ga inain datte.

= I heard she doesn’t have a boyfriend despite being that cute.

:rrrr: どれほど  ( = dore hodo) how much, how many, how far

Note : You can replace this with どれだけ ( = doredake)

Ex. 昨夜はどれほど飲んだか記憶にない。

= Sakuya  wa dorehodo nondaka kioku ni nai.

= I don’t remember how much I drank last night.

Ex. あの頃はどれほど学校が嫌いだったことか。

= Anokoro wa dorehodo gakkou ga kiraidatta koto ka.

= You have no idea how much I hated going to school at that time.

Ex. どれほどの金持ちでも人の心は買えない。

= Dorehodo no kanemochi demo hito no kokoro wa kaenai.

= No matter how rich you are, you can’t buy people’s hearts.

⭐️ moderation : ほど ( = hodo) +よい ( = yoi) = just right, right amount, moderate ~ adequate ~

Ex. この人参をほどよい大きさに切って下さい。

= Kono ninjin wo hodoyoi ookisa ni kitte kudasai.

= Please cut this carrot in the right size.

Ex. 4対4の合コンってほどよい人数だね。

= Yon tai yon no goukon tte hodo yoi ninzuu dane.

= A mixer (match-making party ) of a group of four men and four women is just the right number.

Ex. ここは、ほどよい大きさの店だ。

= Koko wa hodoyoi ookisa no mise da.

= The store size (restaurant, bar) is just right.

⭐️ ほど遠い ( = hodo tooi) = far from

Ex. マギーは理想の女性にはほど遠い。

= Maggie wa risou no josei niwa hodotooi.

= Maggie is far from my ideal woman.

Ex. 正解からほど遠い。

= Seikai kara hodo tooi.

= Not even close to the right answer.

⭐️ the more  (someone does something) the more ~

:rrrr: verb + ば ( = ba )  +  verb  +  ほど ( = hodo) + result

Ex. 彼のことを知れ知るほどわからなくなる。

= Kare no koto wo shireba shiru hodo wakaranaku naru.

= The more I get to know him, the more I don’t understand him.

Ex. あの人のことを好きになれ好きになるほど、心が痛い。

= Anohito no kotowo suki ni nareba suki ni naru hodo kokoro ga itai.

= The more I love him/her, the more my heart hurts.

Ex. この化粧水は使え使うほど肌がしっとりします。

= Kono keshousui wa tsukaeba tsukau hodo hada ga shittori shimasu.

= The more you use this lotion, the more moist your skin gets.

Ex. 日本語は勉強すれするほど、奥が深くなる。

= Nihongo wa benkyou sureba suruhodo oku ga fukaku naru.

= The more I study Japanese, the deeper it gets.


🐶 From the picture above :


= Kare no koto wasureyou to sureba suruhodo, omoidashichau.

= The more I try to forget about him, the more I remember him…

Note : ちゃう ( = chau) is a casual contraction of してしまう ( = shite shimau.)

iadjective+ ば~ほど〜  ( = ba ~ hodo ~ )

Ex. 人数が多けれ多いほど楽しいです

= Ninzuu ga ookereba ooi hodo tanoshii desu.

= The more the merrier.

Ex. ホテルは安けれ安いほどいいです。

= Hoteru wa yasukereba yasui hodo ii desu.

= The cheaper hotel is better.

Ex. お返事は早けれ早いほど助かります。

= Ohenji wa hayakereba hayai hodo tasukarimasu.

= The sooner you reply to me the better for me.

na-adjective : ~ なら ( = nara) ~ なほど ( – na hodo)

Ex. 子供は、元気なら元気なほどいい。

= Kodomo wa, genki nara genkina hodo ii.

= The more cheerful the children are, the better. /The cheerful children are better.

Ex. ホテルの部屋は清潔なら清潔なほどいい。

= Hoteru no heya wa seiketsu nara seiketsu na hodo anshin suru.

= The cleaner the hotel rooms are, the better./ The clean hotel rooms are the better.

⭐️ There is a limit for/to~ / Things have a limit :

When something is way too much you can say,

:rrrr:~ にもほどがある ( =~ nimo hodo ga aru) = There is a limit for/to ~

Ex. 図々しいにもほどがある。

= Zuuzuushii nimo hodo ga aru.

= What a nerve. / You have some nerve.

Ex. ばかばかしいにもほどがある。

= Babakashii nimo hodo ga aru.

= It’s way too stupid.

Ex. 冗談にもほどがある。

= Joudan nimo hodo ga aru.

=It has gone way beyond the joke.

Usually, you use this expression for something negative but there is a very colloquial expression to refer to someone way too cute,

Ex. かわいいにもほどがある。

= Kawaii nimo hodo ga aru.

= (Someone is) way too cute.

⭐️ Others: ほどほど ( = hodohodo) the right amount, moderately

When you control the amount of things/activities.

Ex. ほどほどにしておきなさい。

= Hodohodo ni shite okinasai.

= Don’t do too much. (Know your limit.)

Ex. お酒はほどほどに。

= Osake wa hodohodo ni.

= Don’t drink too much./ Drink moderately.

Ex. これからは煙草もほどほどにしておきます。

= Korekarawa tabako mo hodohodo ni shiteokimasu.

= I will smoke moderately. (I will control the amount of cigarettes I smoke.)


⭐️ ~の  ( = ~ no hodo) : Business/ Formal

In business or formal situations, you see/hear these kind of expressions.


= Gokakunin no hodo yoroshiku onegai itashimasu.

We thank you in advance for looking into (checking)  this matter.


= Gorikai no hodo yoroshiku onegai itashimasu.

= We thank you in advance for your understanding.


= Gokyouryou no hodo yoroshiku onegai itashimasu.

=We thank you in advance for your cooperation.


= Goaiko no hodo yoroshiku onegai itashimasu.

= We thank you in advance for doing business with us.

マギー先生より= Maggie Sensei yori = From Maggie Sensei


=Korede “hodo” no tsukaikata wakarimashita ka?

= Do you know how to use “hodo” now?


= Korehodo nagai ressun ni naru towa omoimasen deshita.

= I had no idea this lesson would be this long.


= Maggie Sensei no saito hodo “Hodo” ni tsuite kuwashiku setsumei shiteiru saito wa nai desu yo.

= No other site explains how to use “hodo” as well as this site.


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  1. Hello Maggiesensei,

    Thank you for the great lesson. I’m currently trying to translate Saori Hayamis Yume no Hate made, but I’m struggling with two lines and was hoping you could help me.

    寂しい人ほど 優しさを持ち
    優しい人ほど 強さを秘めている

    Am I right in the assumption that this is a shortening for the ば~ほど〜 grammar point? So those two lines would translate to

    The lonlier a person is, the more kindness they hold
    The kinder a person is, the more strength they’re hiding

    Thank you in advance.

  2. Senseiii is there any other way to say 〇〇ば〇〇ほど? Like how kids and teenagers nowadays say it, or short ver. of it?

  3. Hello Maggie Sensei,


    I would like to expand the sentence out, is the following equivalent correct?:


    Thx in advance

    1. コーヒーを多く飲めば人飲む人ほど、 →It doesn’t work 
      コーヒーを多く飲む in the original sentence modifies 人

      You can say
      コーヒーを多く飲めば飲むほど instead of using 人
      It is more natural. (The hidden subject is “people in general” or “you” in general)

  4. ①パーテイーでは食べきれないほどたくさん料理が出た。
    Sensei, could you please help me translate these sentences? I was also having problem in understanding the purpose of hodo in these sentences.

    1. They served more food that we could eat at the party.
      ほど describes the amount (abundance) of the food.
      (Typo 涼しい) It is so cool in the room that I could forget about the summer heat.
      ほど describes how cool the room temperature is.

  5. Hello, Maggie sensei, your page is the best! ^_^

    I found this sentence in a novel: “無意味で美しい行為ほど、純粋な祈りがあるだろうか”. Do I translate it right into; “Can there be more pure prayer than meaningless, beautiful act?”

    Thank you in advance for the reply!

    1. Hello xerim,

      Yes, your translation is right. Just one thing.
      It implies →No there isn’t. = Meaningless and beautiful act is the most pure prayer.

  6. Hello Maggie sensei.
    Thank you for the lesson
    I have a question, 素直にそう思えるほどの良い表情だ。
    How do you translate that? My translation would be ‘have such a nice expression that (someone) seem to be unaffected.’

    Hodo has a lot of used/way to be use that I’m confused, which part of hodo in your lesson does this sentence belong to sensei?

    And that Sunaoni can also mean honest, I sometimes feel puzzled which meaning to use on some kanji..

    If this sentence also has よう、そう、らしい, along with that omoeru, then I’m dead..

    1. Hi Niko
      The usage of ほど is to do something like ~ / to be as (like)~ / to be almost ~
      →素直にそう思えるほどの modifies 良い表情 (good expression)
      そう (so, that way) refers to the previous sentence.
      The literal translation is
      Someone’s facial expression is so good to the extent of making me genuinely think that way.

  7. Hi Maggie-sensei,

    Thank you for the lesson!

    The link to your ほど遠い mini-lesson doesn’t work. Has it broken or have you taken it down? Your lessons are always so helpful. :)

  8. Sensei:

    I came across this paragraph:


    When I literally translate it, to me it is as if it were saying: And even though the alley was very narrow, in regard to the houses on the other side they had aa degree of having the form of illusion, outside the door the fog was very dense.

    But I read it fast is as if there should be から after 戸外は霧が濃密であった。or somewhere. Or is it that であった. is working as the reason for not being able to see the houses.


    1. Hello qwert,
      It is from A Christmas Carol,right?
      The original English is
      The fog came pouring in at every chink and keyhole, and was so dense without, that although the court was of the narrowest, the houses opposite were mere phantoms.
      The basic structure of the Japanese translation is
      The fog was so dense outside (1) that the houses in the opposite side looked liked phantoms/illusion. (2)
      (1) gives a reason for the following sentence (2)
      And (2) is expressing the degree of having the illusions.

      1. Yes, Sensei, it is Christmas Carol.

        Thanks for the explanation. I thought that the sentence needed から for reason because when I read it fast, it was as if something was not right. I don’t know how to explain it. And I was mentally rewriting it as:


        Would that sentence be correct, Sensei?

        1. Hi again,
          I understand why you want to use から to give a reason.
          But if you use から the word order should change

          For example
          The main focus changes → 幻影の様に見えた。

          The original sentence
          focuses on the last part, 戸外は霧が濃密であった

  9. 1) あの映画は期待していた(とおりに)面白くなかった.

    2) あの映画は期待していた(ほど)面白くなかった.
    Whats the difference between these two Sentences as there meaning is same. Please explain sensee.

    1. Hi Laxmi

      1)Let me change a little. 期待 is used when you expect something positive.
      That movie was not interesting as I thought it would be.
      Before you saw the movie, you thought it would be interesting and you were right. It was not interesting.

      2. あの映画は期待していた(ほど)面白くなかった.

      That movie was not as interesting as I was expecting it to be.
      Before you saw the movie, you thought it was interesting. (but it was not)

      1. @maggiesensei Thank you so much sensee. I understood very well. You are amazing.

  10. Thank you for the detailed lesson! However, I am still having trouble with a translation where ほど is used after an adjective: “眩しい程の暗闇の中で”What is the ほど doing to the ‘dazzling’? Does it mean that it is incomparable? Or Is it more like “a darkness like that”? Thank you in advance!

    1. Hello Rowena

      “the darkness” never dazzles so it must be from some lyrics.😉

      眩しい程の暗闇 dazzling darkness
      The literal meaning with 程 is “the darkness is so bright that it was almost dazzling”
      So it is not actually dazzling but it is so bright as if it was dazzling.

  11. こんにちは、先生、

    I have a question about the ば~ほど~ structure.
    The way you taught it, the correct way to say “The older the whiskey, the more expensive it is” is:
    However, the way Coto Academy on YouTube taught it is :

    If I plug both those sentences into an online translator, I get the same translation, so they must both be correct. So what’s the difference? Is one more casual than the other?

    Thank you!

    1. 〜ければ〜ほど〜
      In this sentence pattern you repeat the same word, so even if you omit the first part, the listener would know the meaning.
      So you can see them both.

      ウィスキーは古ければ古いほど高いです。 →ウィスキーは古いほど高いです。
      安ければ安いほどいいです。 →安いほどいいです。

      So you can omit the first part. 

      Why did you say 女ですよ?

      1. あー、分かりました!ありがとうございます!

        And the 女ですよ thing is just a thing my friends and I do as a meme (in response to a character named Elfman always yelling『男だ!!』), and we end emails like that sometimes so I kind of added it without noticing ^_^” Sorry if that confused you!

  12. こんにちは!
    First of all thank you for your page, it’s very helpful.
    Secondly, I apologize if the question has been asked but I don’t seem to find it.

    When studying Japanese one of the problems I encounter is to know if the grammar or vocabulary is commonly used and in which context (formal, informal).
    For example with ば〜ほど, is something people use in casual speech? So if I want to say “the more I think about it the angrier I get” is there a more casual way of saying it or do people say 考えれば考えるほど怒る?
    Thanks in advanced and sorry for the long thread

    1. Hello Fumikiri,

      You do use ば〜ほど in casual speech as well.

      the more I think about it the angrier I get
      The most natural way to say this 考えれば考えるほど、怒れてくる。・腹が立つ(hara ga tatsu) or 腹が立ってくる。

  13. in the manga and the movie oboreru knife, there is the quote, “目が回るほど、息が止まるほど、震えるほど。。。” could you explain what these mean:) thank you

    1. Hi vos
      You have to check the meaning of these three verbs first
      目が回る = literal meaning “feeling dizzy” →目が回るほど = as I feel dizzy
      The common expression is 目が回るほど忙しい = very busy (like you feel dizzy)
      息が止まる= stop breezing →息が止まるほど = breathtaking
      震える = shaking, shivering →震えるほど = something gives the shivers (could be positive or negative)

  14. Hey Maggie, can you please explain what usage of ‘hodo’ is being used in this sentence I read? I cant wrap my head around it!


    1. Hi Dub
      This ほど expresses the degree of his ignorance.
      ほど refers to “不思議に思われる”
      so the literal meaning of 不思議に思われるほど is “to the extent that one wonders why”
      → curiously (enough)/ surprisingly (he didn’t know anything)

  15. Hi Maggie, thank you for this lesson! You’re always helping us.

    Maggie Sensei, I have a question, but it’s not related to ほど. Can you answer me please?

    I don’t understand why you use the particle に in this example:

    Ex. マギーは理想の女性にはほど遠い。

    = Maggie wa risou no josei niwa hodotooi.

    = Maggie is far from my ideal woman.


    And why you use から here? Why not に?

    Ex. 正解からほど遠い。

    = Seikai kara hodo tooi.

    = Not even close to the right answer.

    1. Hi Eliza,

      Good question.

      正解からほど遠い・正解にはほど遠い Actually you can use them both (から and には)

      (far) from ~ = から(ほど遠い)
      When you use には, it has a nuance of “as one’s ideal woman” “as the right answer”.

  16. thanks to your lesson I better understood the various uses of “hodo”
    But a sentence I read has confused me a little …
    The phrase is this

    how could it be translated?

  17. I am reading asahi, and came across this sentence. How does the last part translate?
    「そんな勘違いをしてしまった人がいるほどの超絶技巧だ」 from the full context:

    1. Hi Claus
      I don’t do the translation here but it roughly means,
      The craftsmanship was so amazing that some people mistook (the artwork with the real goldfish.)

  18. こんにちは先生!
    There are things I want to ask.
    I am a bit confused about ‘ほどの…’

    1. 目に見えないほど小さいダイヤの指輪を買った。
    Is it possible to shorten the following sentence? Modifying the ring.
    1. 目に見えないほどの指輪を買った。

    Would it be alright to drop the ‘の’?

    3. If i want to say, ‘that person has countless/so many cars’ using ほど expression.
    3. あの方は、数え切れないほど車がたくさんあリます。Should i add ‘の’ to modify the car ?
    or just
    3. あの方は、車の数が数え切れないほど多いです。

    Would you mind to take a look at the following sentence, I wonder if I make any mistakes.

    4. 三時間ほどずっと働いていたので、体がいつでも倒れるほど疲れています。

    Your answer would be appreciated

    1. マギー先生からの返事を待っているポストを見つけた^^

      1. @天人 教えてくれてありがとう!
        @Sassy おはよう!

        Is it possible to shorten the following sentence? Modifying the ring.
        1. 目に見えないほどの指輪を買った。

        It is possible but it is more clear with 小さい.



        3. あの方は、数え切れないほど車がたくさんあリます。Should i add ‘の’ to modify the car ?

        The original sentence itself is not natural.
        Let me change the sentences a little first. Personは〜があります。→placeには〜があります。 or personは〜を持っています。

        Not natural.

        4. 三時間ほどずっと働いていたので、体がいつでも倒れるほど疲れています。
        If you want to use ほど

        1. 先生に聞いてよかった、ありがとう先生!
          And thank you too 天人さん for letting マギー先生 know.

  19. Hi Maggie,

    I have read all the article, but I couldn’t find an answer to my question.

    What’s the meaning of ほど in this sentence?


    I really can’t figure it out! :(
    Could you please help me?

    Thank you vey much!

    1. OK, the simple form is easier to understand.
      A is not as sweet as B.

      Ex. りんごはいちごほど甘くない
      Apples are not as sweet as strawberries.

      I don’t know the context but
      The subject is 芸能界 so

      = The show business was not easy as the promises with the entertainment companies would be kept.
      In other word, The show business was tough. The promises with the entertainment company wouldn’t be kept.

      1. Oh my god, thank you very much for answering my question.

        This is in board terms the context. A guy from a model agency made a promise to a model but in the end he broke it. That sentence is from a thought of the model.

        1. OK, then it make a sense.
          You often say this expression bringing up one’s expectation and say

          ~ほど甘くない It is not that easy to do ~.

    2. テストは簡単なら、簡単なほどいいですね。

      I do not know what it means. Could you explain?

  20. Hi Maggie,

    I was reviewing this again, and I came across something curious.

    The diamond was so small it is like you cannot see it with you eyes.

    Why do we say 目に見えない? Shouldn’t it be 目で見えない? Because we are saying “you cannot see it BY looking”. I understand the particle で would be use for situations when you want to say “by…”. For example, “by car” – 車で.

    So when we want to say “too small to see by sight/eye” (目に見えない)… why do we use the particle に?

    1. Good question.
      When you see something with your eyes, you use で
      自分の目で見る = to see something with your eyes.

      If I translated it literally it means
      to be visible in one’s sight. So actually it is a location marker.

      The same thing with 頭に浮かぶ = atama ni ukabu = to think of something
      The literal meaning “some idea comes up in one’s head.”

    2. Hi Dennis, Hi Maggie!
      a very good question, indeed.
      I understand the difference as follows:

      目で見える indicates means of action (= can see / is able to see !with! one’s eyes). It stresses more the fact that something can be seen.
      目に・から見える refers to a location (eyes / sight), where something becomes visible (= to be visible). It stresses more this location, rather than the action itself.

      人の目に見えない = Something is beyond one’s vision / something is not visible to one’s eyes.
      人の目で見えない = Something cannot be seen with one’s eyes.


  21. Hi Maggie,

    Thank you for the lesson. I have a small question to ask about ほど ( = hodo) +よい ( = yoi)

    It means just right. Is this related to ちょうどいい? Both seem to mean the same thing. When should I use which?

    1. ほどよい and ちょうどいい both mean “just right”.
      They could be interchangeable in some cases but when you are talking about the size or something fits someone perfectly, you use ちょうどいい.

      ほどよい is often used when the speaker feels comfortable. So when you are talking about the shoe size, you don’t say

      Also when you are talking about some timing,
      He showed up in the right time/timing.
      You don’t say ほどよいときに

      1. Wow, seems like a subtle difference, but I think I understand. Thanks so much and thanks for the lessons as always.

  22. 想像していたほど and 想像していた通り Are both possible? If so, how does one tell when to use which?


    1. この建物は、想像していたほど大きくなかった。
      You imagined the building was big but it was not as big as you had imagined.
      →When the fact is different from what you have imagined.

      The building was as big as you had imagined/The building was small* was you had imagined. (*not big)
      →When the fact is the same as you have imagined.

      1. Hello maggi sensei! I am not sure how to comment here. I had a question regarding the use of hodo :
        What is the significance of hodo here? Like, is it saying the ‘the amount i reached out, was the amount i kept waiting’? I am really confused….Thank you in advance!

        1. Hi Raee
          This is a very poetic expression.

          Imagine, it keeps raining and you miss the blue sky a lot. This ほど describes how much you have missed the sky. As you reach out your hand towards the light which you can’t even reach.

  23. マギー先生、こんにちは!お久しぶりですね。お元気ですか。


    Ex. あなたががこれほど、馬鹿な人だとは思わなかった。

    Palidor xoxo

      1. はい、私は元気でしたが、とても忙しかったですね。去年、新しい仕事を始めて、引っ越しましたが、仕事をあまり好きじゃなかったので、今年他の仕事を見つけました。今、国際法律事務所に勤めています。仕事が大好きですよね!

        1. そうですか。いいお仕事見つかってよかったですね。

  24. It’s minor but think I might’ve found a typo?

    ほどではありません。(polite) /〜ほどではない
    = ~ hodo dewa arimasen /~ hodo de wa mao/

    The romaji is written as mao instead of nai.~

    (thanks for the lesson btw, just came across this in my textbook and I felt like I’m getting way more confused over this then I should be, this helps.~ <3 )

  25. Hello Maggie Sensei,
    can you explain what this is:


    My guess:I cannot stand up fast because I feel my back hurting?

    1. Let me break it down so that you can figure it out.
      = Suddenly I felt a pain in my back.

      立っていられないほどの express what kind of pain.
      the pain as you can’t stand still

      1. Ahh ok, so is this correct then:

        My back is in so much pain to the extent that it seems like I cannot even stand still?

        1. Sorry I meant:
          Suddenly I felt a pain in my back to the extent that it seems like I cannot even stand still

  26. Hello Maggie,
    what does this mean:

    I am having a hard time figuring out the meaning in english


  27. Hi maggie sensei !
    First of all thank you for your great lesson !
    But actually I have a question, it’s about a sentence that I’ve heard in a song.
    It says : “確証ないほど拡散する”
    So I wanted to know what it really means ?
    Thanks !

    1. @マエル
      I just wrote to someone yesterday but I don’t do the translation here (especially lyrics.) but just this once.
      It’s 欅坂46’s song, right?
      拡散する means “to spread” (in this case the gossip, rumors (from the previous lyrics))
      So the rumor/gossip spreads to the extent that you can’t prove if they are true or not.
      →the gossip/rumor spread so much that you can’t even know if they are true or not.)

  28. Hi Maggie-Sensei!
    Can you please help me? I’m trying to read a manga and I’m having hard time understanding the hodo in this sentence:
    If it helps, there’s a battle going on and the person saying this has been ignored this whole time, until she brings out a huge weapon and says this line to the enemy.

    1. @Jinzal

      Hi Jinzal

      ほど in that sentence modifies “このまま見逃す” = to over look like this. (Probably “to let you go without catching you.” in this case.)
      So the rough idea is
      I am not as sweet as just letting you go like that.”

  29. Hey Maggie-Sensei! 🙋

    Can you please help me with this sentence😊😉:


    I have seen a lot on Japanese sweets packages but I don’t really understand what they want to express 🤔🤷‍♀️ And what this ほど is used for. I had the idea that it maybe can have like a sense of “amazingly tasty” or “it’s so delicious to chew”. Does this make sense? I am so confused please help me😓🙏


    1. @Chii

      噛むほどうまい is actually
      噛めば噛むほどうまい. So the first part (噛めば) is missing.
      The more you chew, the more flavor comes out or you get
      The more you chew, the more tasty it gets.

      1. ありがとうございます😊
        I thought it would mean something like this I was just confused because the first part was missing 😊 Thank you for the quick reply 😉👍

    2. Hello Chii!
      The more you chew, the better it tastes => it’s so delicious to chewというのもOKです^^


  30. Hi Maggie-Sensei, I’ve gone through your lesson, but I’m still not sure what hodo means in the following sentence in my book.


    People who drink coffee a lot do not get freckles easily? What role does hodo play here?

    1. Hello Yan!
      ほど used in this sentence implies “the more… the…”.
      So according some scientific studies a negative correlation was found between drinking coffee and getting freckles (= the more coffee you drink, the less you are prone to getting freckles [lit. the harder freckles you can get]).


      1. @Yan

        It seems like you have a nice friend who already helped you here.
        Thank you 天人 for helping Yan.

        Now I go get a cup of coffee!! ≡≡≡ヘ(* ゚-)ノ.

        1. You can say 飲めば飲むほど,too.
          Here’s the difference:
          1) verbばverbほど〜
          飲めば飲むほど the more you drink, the more ~
          2) Noun ほど〜
          飲む人ほど(* 飲む modifies a noun 人) People who drink ~ (talking about the tendency/possibility.)

          Ex. 練習すればするほど上手になります。
          = The more you practice, the better you will become

          Ex. 練習する人ほど上手になります。
          = People who study more tend to be able to do better.

    2. ありがとうございます😊
      I thought it would mean something like this I was just confused because the first part was missing 😊 Thank you for the quick reply 😉👍

  31. Hello Maggie-sensei! Thank you so much for your lessons!
    I have a small question.
    Is it possible to translate the following lines:

    崩れてしまうほど 壊れてしまうほど
    いつでもここにいて 見つめていたい

    (It’s a love poetry)


    Until we crumble down,
    Until we break into pieces,
    I want to be here always
    Looking at you.

    Or maybe ほど here refers to the extent of “crumbling” and “breaking”?

    Thank you!

    1. @Julia

      Hi Julia

      It is hard to translate poetry from a few lines but I think the subject of the first line is the person who the speaker want to look at.
      So until you crumble down and break into pieces, I would love to keep looking at you staying here for good

  32. How would you translate 悲しいほどに美しい then? Would it be “A beautiful as (she was) sad”?

  33. Hi Maggie Sensei!
    Thank you for the lesson. I have a question about another useage of hodo.

    I was searching around how to say ‘I’m not good enough to..’ and found this grammar pattern that you didn’t mention. Is this correct?

    My Japanese is not good enough to speak to you.

    If that is possible, can I also say things like these using the grammar pattern above?
    I can’t run fast enough to catch up with you.
    I’m not good enough for you.
    I’ve had enough of eating sushi. I ate too much.
    I can’t get enough of Maggie Sensei’s lessons :)
    This product’s quality is good enough for me.

    1. @Can’t get enough of Maggie’s lessons

      My Japanese is not good enough to speak to you.

      Yes you can use ほど. Just to make it more natural…

      Q:If that is possible, can I also say things like these using the grammar pattern above?

      Depends on the sentence.

      The basic pattern is

      * Aほど+ adj+ Vない・できない
      One cannot/doesn’t do something as adj as A

      * AがVほど+ adj+ Vない・できない

      One cannot/doesn’t do something as adj as A does

      I can’t run fast enough to catch up with you.

      Yes. あなたに追いつけるほど早く走れない

      However, you can not simply use ほど for “enough”

      The following expressions will be….
      I’m not good enough for you. = 私はあなたにはふさわしくない

      I’ve had enough of eating sushi. I ate too much. = すしを十分(じゅうぶん)食べた・食べすぎた

      I can’t get enough of Maggie Sensei’s lessons = マギー先生のレッスンが大好きだ。(How sweet!)

      (can’t get enough of ~ : いくら〜しても飽(あ)きない= 好きだ)

      This product’s quality is good enough for me. = この製品の質は私には十分だ。

      1. ありがとうございます!Maggie先生の説明はいつもわかりやすいです!!

    2. Brilliant – was just about to ask exactly the same question.
      I came across:
      Which I think means:
      “Aunty is not kind enough to set aside extra for the troublesome foster-child.”

  34. Sensei i have a some questions.

    so i started reading the この素晴らしい世界に祝福を! light novel for practice and it said in a sentence : あなたはつい先ほど、不幸にも亡くなりました.
    so i understand the meaning is something like : unfortunately you died just a while ago

    question 1. why does the author use both tsui and saki hodo? dont they have the same meaning or am i missing something? is it like an expression?

    question 2. is there a lesson on the particle ni mo here? i dont really understand the exact meaning of the sentence(didnt find a lesson just for that one by searching “ni mo” on the site)

    question 3. this isnt really important but on the 亡 kanji there was furigana saying it is read as na, is there some reason it was added? usually kanji dont have furigana in light novels unless they are names or they want them to be read specifically.

    1. after some searching regarding my second question i found out nimo means either also or its used for emphasis. So does the nimo in the sentence just emphasize 不幸?

    2. another update regarding question 3
      i found more words with furigana, i guess light novels do have furigana for some words after all.
      i guess the harder ones

    3. @arandomboy


      Q1: つい means “just” and 先ほど means “a little while ago”. So that つい is used to emphasize 先ほど
      You often use them together.
      The casual way: ついさっき (just now)

      Q2, Q3, I guess you figured out the answer yourself.

  35. Maggie-Sensei, can you explain how the movie Warui Natsu Hodo Yoku Nemuru uses hodo? Your post seems exhaustive, and maybe it’s my yoku-nai nihongo, but I don’t see a use that fits it. Arigatoo!

    1. @Kristi

      Hi Kristi,
      I should have covered the usage.
      When speaker express their opinion how things works or gives some stereotyped phenomenon/person.
      adjective + noun+ ほど ~
      = the more noun gets (adjective) ~ (what likely to be/happens)

      = Warui yatsu hodo yoku nemuru.
      = The bad guy sleeps better.(The bad guys sleep better) (The worse guy you are, the better you sleep.)

  36. 使い方は恐ろしいほど多いですね


    まずは「(she) lived as beautiful as (she was) sad」という意味だと思いましたけれど、このページを読んだときに「(she) lived so beautifully that it was sad」だと決めました。どちらが正しいですか?

    Apologies for all the above as I’m sure it’s not half as comprehensible as it was in my head.

    1. @score


  37. 「程」の文法はこれ程難しいだとは思いませんでした。
    *I hope it is correct. :oops:

    Maggie-sensei, I could understand pretty much everything :kanpai1:, but not that “We sometimes describe things in an extreme way” part. I wasn’t able to see the pattern on the examples like:



    I always look for patterns on the structure to make my studies easy, but I’m cracking my head trying to figure that one.

    1. @Utsuo

      OK, You may see the patten better from

      = Kare no koto ga shinuhodo suki desu.
      = I love him so much I would die for him. / I love him to death.
      You don’t actually die but to express how much you love him in an exaggerate way you use 程.

      言葉にできないほど= You may able to express the beauty of the scenery.
      飽きるほど= If you get really tired of reading something, you wouldn’t keep reading but you do.

      So you bring up some extreme/exaggerate example to show the degree of things.

  38. Hi Maggie sensei,

    Your lesson about hodo is very useful. Thank you very much. However, I found a sentence like this and can’t tell what type of this “hodo” in the sentence.

    Please help me to clarify it. It seems they omitted the “fukamareba”…

    (The more a man knows, the more he discovers his ignorance)

    Thank you Maggie sensei.

    Triet Dao

    1. @Triet Dao

      Hi, sorry for the late reply. I was on the short winter vacation.
      You posted the same questions a couple of time and 天人さん was trying to help you. Did you read his comment?
      (@ 天人 Than, you for your help! I can always rely on you when I am away. :) )


      (The more a man knows, the more he discovers his ignorance)

      You are right. It is omitted 深まれば


      Sometimes we omit the 〜ば because it looks/sounds repetitive.

    2. Tks Maggie sensei,

      For some reason, my posting seemed not gone thru so I keep repeating the posting. Sorry for annoying you.

      Thanks for yours and 天人さん’s clarifying.

      Best regards,
      Triet Dao

  39. Hi Maggie sensei.

    Pls help me to clarify the use of hodo in the below sentene. It seems they left the “fukamareba” off…thank you very much. Triet Dao
    The more a man knows, the more he discovers his ignorance.

    1. Hello Triet Dao.
      There’s a long and a short version of the ~ば…ほど construction.
      Long: (ゲームは)難しければ、難しいほど面白い。 ==> Used in conversations & texts; sounds more formal.
      Short: (ゲームは)難しいほど面白い。 ==> Usually used in conversations; sounds more casual.


  40. Hi Maggie sensei, pls help me to clarify the “hodo” in this sentence. It seems they left the “fukamareba” off. Thank you very much. Triet Dao
    人は知識が深まるほど、自分の無知に気がつくものである。The more a man knows, the more he discovers his ignorance.

  41. Hi!

    I don’t know how to translate this…


    “hodo” is used like kurai/ gurai, right? But with “buki to shite” It does not make sense !cryingboy! !cryingboy!

    I hope you help me understand these lines !gejigeji! !gejigeji! !gejigeji!

    1. @Veron
      OK, I won’t do the translation here but I will break it down.
      嫌になる means “to fed up with something””to be sick of something”
      嫌になるほど=to the extent of being sick of something

      (冷静な)現実を武器として持ち出す = to bring up (冷静な)現実 as a 武器.

  42. Thanks for this explanation, マギー先生. I’m trying to translate this song (it’s stuck in my head), and I was wondering about how ほど is used in it:

    (1) ヒマラヤほどの消しゴムひとつ
    (2) 楽しい事をたくさんしたい
    (3) ミサイルほどのペンを片手に
    (4) おもしろい事をたくさんしたい

    What do lines 1 & 3 mean, and how is ほど being applied grammatically there?

    Thanks for your help; love the site. This is the song that I’m referencing

    1. @Michael

      I know this song♪
      They are trying to express how big their dream is.
      So I would like to have so many fun things, having an eraser as big as the size of he Himalaya Mountains and a pen as big as the size of missile.

    1. @Bob

      Which part is confusing?
      料理の腕がある = good at cooking
      間違えられる= to be mistaken (people think she is a pro even if she is not.)
      ほど = as (to the extent)
      She cooks so well that some people think she is a professional chef (even if she is not.)

  43. Hello :)
    I came across this page while looking for an explanation of a specific construct, but saw that it wasn’t actually explained here… the use of ほど as a subject marker in lines like (x)ほど(y) to mean, to my understanding, “that which is x are/do y, unlike that which is not x”.

    The specific constructs in question used “(qualifier)人ほど(statement)”, as in the proverb 下手な職人ほど道具に難癖をつけたがる, which I take it differs slightly in meaning from the variant 下手な職人は道具に難癖を付ける by emphasizing that “while 下手な職人 do this, those that are not 下手な職人 do not do this”.

    I would greatly appreciate a proper explanation, though.

    1. @FJ
      The translation is ”A bad workman always blames his tools.” but this is the pattern
      The more you are ~, the more you tend to be/do ~
      The more the person is ~, the more he/she tends to be/do ~

      1. Thanks for your reply.

        That’s what was confusing me… whether the meaning is supposed to be “a bad workman always blames his tools (unlike a good workman)”, “the worse a workman you are, the more you blame your tools” or something like “the worse a workman you are, the more likely you are to blame your tools”/”most bad workmen blame their tools (but not all)”

        But there’s no REAL difference between ほど and は in this construct?

        (also, the 〜したがる root doesn’t really have aything to do with the construct, does it? The meaning is the same if it’s 〜する or something else?)

        1. @FJ

          1) 〜人は〜したがる
          2) 〜人ほど〜したがる
          Yes, the meaning are the same. は also has a function to show the contrast.
          While は is just A = B, ほど emphasizes the meaning “the more~ ” more than ”は” and you see all the degrees/levels in your head.
          Ex. excellent workman→ good workman→ so-so workman→ bad workman
          So the more you move forward the direction of →, the more you want to do something

          したがる・する the translation is the same but したがる involves the desire to do something more.
          I have a がる lesson.

  44. :maggie-small: :purple:

    Some typos:

    “Maggie hodo no ii onna a sousou inai.” :rrrr: wa
    “Kare bodo hidoi hito wa imasen.” :rrrr: hodo
    “Sakuwa wa dorehodo nondaka kioku ni nai.” :rrrr: sakuya

    Some questions:

    1. I’ve been tought to use ほど in negative comparisons as you explained in the first section: A wa B hodo ~ nai. But I was wondering whether you could use より instead ほど in this case to, like in normal comparisons.

    2. Same question for the 思ったほど ~ない form. Because I’ve heard this one with より: 思ってたより少ないな。

    3. あの人のことを好きになれば好きになるほど、心が痛い。
    In the “verb + ば + verb + ほど” section, why is 好きになる repeated as a whole in this case? Isn’t grammatically just なる the verb and 好きに an adverb or a noun? Is it because it’s an expression or are verbmodifiers like adverbs repeated too?


    1. @Zetsuboumanadeshi

      Hi, manadeshi!
      Thank you for spotting the typos again. :D

      1. OK, here is the difference.

      1) AはBより ~

      You usually compare A and B

      2) AはBほど〜ではない

      The difference:
      (1) We tend to use より more when we compare two things.
      (2) ほど is talking about the degrees.
      (3) AさんはBさんほど背が高くない
      = A is not as tall as B

      You can’t say
      You don’t usually use より in a negative sentence.

      (Actually I am making a lesson on より(-yori) so I will cover that difference.)

      2. You have to change the pattern.

      思ったほど多くない。(negative sentence)
      思ったより少ない。 (affirmative sentence)

      3. You can also say 好きになればなるほど
      If it is a compound verb, 好きに+なる, you can skip the first part.
      Ex. 勉強をすればするほど、わからなくなる。
      But if it is one simple verb, you repeat it twice.


  45. Hi again xD I started reading random posts in Japanese and I got stumped on one


    Supposedly おすそ分け mean share (noun). トーカちゃん is a person in the post, while すきなんだね means I like you. Right? XD

    I don’t know what そんなに means.

    Can I get a translation please?

    1. @Katherine

      Hi Katherine,
      I see you like Toka-chan so much.

      そんなに means “that much”

  46. Hi! I was wondering what hodo meant in this context




    Thank you!

    1. @Katherine

      Hi Katherine

      1) The trivial memories come back to use more.
      (←The more boring the memories are, the more you remember)

      2) Not sure if this 殺す literally means to kill someone or kill certain memories. But the pattern is the same as 1)
      Let say 殺したい記憶 means 忘れたい記憶
      The more you want to delete the memory, the more it comes back to you.

  47. Hi Maggie Sensei, could you explain the following? I’ve been trying to figure out what it means the whole day :(

    “Kodomo no hikou ga subete kyoushi no sekinin da to kimerareru hodo mondai wa tanjyun dewa nai.”

    Not really sure what this sentence is talking about. Is the sentence structure mentioned in your post?

    Thanks a lot!

    1. @Barry

      Hi Barry

      I don’t do the translation but I will help you understand the structure.

      “Kodomo no hikou ga subete kyoushi no sekinin da to kimerareru hodo mondai wa tanjyun dewa nai.”

      OK, let’s break it down.

      1) The main sentence is
      mondai wa tanjyun dewa nai
      = The issue is not that simple

      2) This sentence has 程(=ほど=hodo) “like/as”

      It might be easier for you to switch the order of words

      = Mondai wa ~~ hodo tanjun de wa nai
      = The issue is not as easy as ~~

      2) Now you just need to figure out the part after “as” (The issue is not as easy as what)

      =Kodomo no hikou ga subete kyoushi no sekinin da to kimerareru

      This sentence is kind of long, so let’s break this down as well.
      ~~だと決められる (passive form)
      = ~~ dato kimerareru
      = to be determined ~~
      this と is to quote something

      What is to be determined?

      Kodomo no hikou ga subete kyoushi no sekinin da
      Teachers are responsible for all the juvenile delinquency

      Now can you figure out the whole thing?

      1. Thanks Maggie Sensei! It make sense now. I had difficulty determining which is “not as easy” as the other. :-D

  48. Hello!
    May I have one question? Is there any difference between these two sentences?



    Because, taking it purely grammatically, shouldn’t they respectively mean:

    1.I’m not as good at talking as the person I want to talk to the most.

    2.I can’t even talk that well to the person I want to talk to the most.

    1. @Caucasus

      Hello Caucasus,
      The subjects of these two sentences are different.
      1. people (or a person) who want(s) to talk the most
      2. I (And pay attention to the particle “と” = with. → With a person who I want to talk the most)

  49. @Maggie
    AH! That makes sense now, thank you so much! I’ve been trying to understand songs specifically because they’re challenging, my goal is to see unusual forms of 日本語 to stretch and strengthen how I think about it. Anyway, thank you again for replying and for writing this massively informative article!

  50. マギー先生、このレッソンでありがとうございました!
    I actually found my way here because I’m trying to make my Japanese learning journey even more fun by attempting to translate songs. (I generally try to avoid pre-existing translations if only because they’re very rarely literal, so they don’t help much.) One in particular has me stumped; the first line goes like this:
    どこから来たかなんて / わからないほどの日々で
    When I saw hodo I was like “Oh great, that hodo word again…” and eventually found my way here, haha. Admittedly, I’m still not totally clear on the meaning; is he saying he doesn’t get where he came from as much these days (as opposed to the past)? Anyway, I feel like the whole song is probably sung with lots of slang and casual speech, so I’m not able to understand much anyway and there’s not much I can do right now to help that…But I’m glad I found my way here regardless, I learned a lot!

    1. @宇宙

      Hello 宇宙!
      Everybody has a different way of learning language. And I agree. You should study Japanese from what you enjoy is the best.
      But just remember. Studying Japanese from J-pop or anime songs are sometimes confusing because it is very different from how we talk and order of the words are sometimes different.
      So this song is ビバナミダ?
      I assume it is missing an adjective such as 忙しい(=isogachii=busy) after ほどの
      So the possible meaning is,
      I’ve been so busy lately that I don’t even know where I came from,…

  51. Thank your lesson, it very useful to me, but could sensei explain more about Hodo use in this sentence: のみこむのに 苦労した日本語は、佃煮にするほどあった

    1. @anzen

      It means “there were so many Japanese words (or expressions) that I had difficulties with”
      You may have checked the word 佃煮 already but 佃煮 is a name of Japanese food but of course, 佃煮にするほど is an expression when there are so many things.
      There are also other expression to describe when there are too many something.
      (Ex. 掃いて捨てるほどある(=haite suteru hodo aru) ・星の数ほどある(=hoshi no kazu hodo aru)・)

  52. Thank’s for your Hodo lesson Maggiesensei, could you explain more about Hodo use in this sentence: のみこむのに 苦労した日本語は、佃煮にするほどあった, and what it mean,
    Arigatougozaimasu Maggiesensei

  53. Think my post didn’t come through so.

    I’m not sure what やすく was conjugated from? so I can’t understand ほど

    Also my attempt この映画を見れば見るほど怖いだろう The more I watch this movie the more scary it seems

    1. @Dannny G

      Hello Danny G,
      わかりやすい = easy to understand →わかりやすくなる=to be easier to understand/to become easier to understand
      I have a lesson on やすい・にくい. Check this lesson.

      But to sound more natural,

  54. Hello, I have a sentence that goes:


    It’s not so much about the hodo but, the tomo that I don’t get.
    How can we translate this??


    1. @Jean
      How about,
      “I didn’t think it was such an extraordinary thing either.”

      〜とは思わなかった = I didn’t think ~~~
      〜とも思わなかった = I didn’t think ~~ either

  55. wow. thank you so much dear maggie sensei and 天人さん. thank you much for giving examples. n_n. thank you much for creating this friendly and helpful site.

  56. good day dear maggie sensei. thank you so much for your explanations. as always, you really are brilliant. oh sorry to bother, it is just that i am wondering what if (verb+hodo+ni) will mean.

    i get the idea of:
    me wa kuchi hodo ni mono wo ii
    (eyes can say things as same level as the mouth)
    but i don’t know what will be the meaning if the noun would be replaced with verb

    noun+wa+verb+hodo+ni (please give an example|) n_n

    but if i just over look it on the existing comments of lesson(s)please correct me and please forgive me.

    thank you so much in advance dear maggie sensei and everyone.

    1. Hello obakasanOOO
      Aは…動詞+ほどに… =A is so… like… / A is so… that… / A is as much… as…

      1. 彼は人々が思うほどにそんなに金持ちではない。(He isn’t so rich like people think he is)
      2. ジョンは野球をするほどには、サッカーに夢中になりませんでした。 (John wasn’t so absorbed in playing soccer like in basketball)
      3. 彼は、想像できないほどの嫌なやつだ。(He is so unpleasant that you cannot even image)
      4. これは、期待したほどではない結果です。 (This result is below my expectations [lit. this result is not what I expected)


  57. Oh, now I understand :) ほど has a lot of different uses… I guessed that was the meaning, but I preferred ask you and get sure.


  58. こんにちは、マギー先生。
    I´m studying ほど and I have a question. There is a sentence I´m not sure how to translate, and what´s the use of ほど that they do.


    It´s possible that here they use the ば…ほど… pattern but ば has fallen down? Which is the use for
    ほど in this sentence?

    Thank you in advance!

    1. @Sandra

      A great question! You are right 若い人ほど is from “若ければ若いほど”.
      Young people tend to wake up late (more than older people).
      The younger you are, you tend to wake up late more.
      This is a technique that we use to emphasize the word which comes before ほど (in this case 若い) and it often use to bring up the unexpected fact.
      You may not expect this but the truth is〜〜〜〜
      Ex. (暑いければ)暑いほど、何か熱いものが食べたくなる。
      When it gets hotter, we prefer to eat something hot more.

    1. @titi

      Yes, it works with adjectives.
      But sorry, it is hard to explain the difference in this comment section. I will add it to the future lesson list.

    1. @Lydia

      Hi, Lydia! はじめまして!
      Thank you for your message. はい、これからもみんなのためにがんばってレッスン作(つく)りますね! !happyface!

  59. マギー先生





    1. @Norojika

      これからも時間があったら是非、このサイトに来て下さいね!!いつでもお待ちしています! !happyface!

  60. じゃあ, 次は私の番です!


    Wow, I was familiar with the basics of how to use “hodo” but this lesson showed me all sorts of different ways to use it now! Great job!

    1. @Remi Ayumi Lee
      Good! Just change よい to うまい

  61. すばらしいレッスンをありがとうございました
    Thank you for the great lesson!
    kono chuko no kuruma wa omotta hodo takaku wa nakatta
    this used car was not as expensive as i had =)

  62. please continue doing this! i think yours is hands down the best website to review conversational japanese. i tend to learn just by repeating what people say, so it’s really useful to have your site provide a written down version of this that also analyses the grammar and everything.

    if i can request one thing: it would be cool to have a lesson on words that you can use in business meetings. it’s always hard for me to find the right “tone”. Basically simple stuff like “hey, so we’ll start with the powerpoint now” and “ok, please look at this graph here” and stuff like that. I’m also wondering what level of speech is appropriate when taking business contacts out for drinks: Sure you don’t want to sound too formal, but also not too casual.

    …and: You NEED to do a lesson on golf! Seriously! Golf vocabulary and sentences and slang should be your #1 priority! :D

    Cheers, again great site!

    1. @Wolfman

      Thank you for your nice comment. !happyface!
      So are you a ビジネスマン? If I have a chance, I will make a lesson on business. (Can’t tell you when though..Lots of things on the list. )
      Meanwhile, if you have a question, please feel free to leave a comment here or follow me on Twitter or Facebook. I can answer your questions.
      It is always safe to use 敬語(keigo) formal languages in business situation unless you are talking to your subordinates or coworkers or someone really close to you.
      Even if you avoid sounding too formal you should stick to desu-masu form.

      (When you show people graphs)
      Ex.こちらのグラフをご覧下さい。= Kochirano gurafu wo goran kudasai. formal
      Ex. こちらのグラフを見て下さい。= Kochirano gurafu wo mite kudasai. (polite)

      Haha, I have never played golf so I should learn how to play golf first. I wonder if they allow a dog to play golf though….

  63. Thank you Maggie-sensei! That was an excellent lesson as usual. We just learned about “~(verb)ba~hodo” at university so it’s great to be able to consolidate my learning and get to know other ways to use “hodo”. :)

    1. @Caedmon

      Hi, Caedmon! 久しぶり!
      Oh great! You have just learned ほど at University.
      使えば使うほどわかってきますよ !onpu!

    1. @majoringram3636

      Haha, それでも勉強すればするほど、面白くなるから続けて下さいね。 !happyface!

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